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"What is ODE to Roy?" lyrics

Discussion in 'Words and Music' started by NoCelebrity, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    Well, I finished this lyric dedicated to Roy this morning, up until 5:30 am, then finishing it around 9.30-11am. A few lyrics were written months ago to go with an acoustic guitar piece I've been working on even longer, the rest fell together quickly. Arranging -- and especially recording this 7-10+minute song -- will probably take months. I'm not jinxing myself, just trying to commit.

    It may still change (and if I'm truly inspired by Roy it will probably grow even longer), but after years of trying to write some sort of musical homage to Roy, I finally have something I really like and can see bringing me a lot of satisfaction to work on. I hope you will ALL leave me your comments and encouragement. I have two VERY positive local responses already, and I don't care to keep it a secret from anyone, even ROY. He deserves far more praise than he's gotten!

    (BTW, podmaster Paul, I'm still thinking about possible Stormcock designs, have downloaded several photos, and begun sketching studies based upon photos and ideas. I need to do several more sketches before I can begin to sketch this strictly un-American bird freehand. Any ideas for poses, anyone?)

    What Is ODE To Roy?
    written by Jack W. Cramer © 2014

    Listen with your ears!
    What do you see?
    Coincidence, or
    Conspiracy!
    The Best things in life are Free...
    But not children
    or Marriage
    or Security.

    What do you think, Mr. Harper?
    How do we be We?
    Preserving Truth
    Life and Liberty
    Working together
    The Humanities
    Seven Billion
    More and More (and even More?)
    Individualities

    You are the Muse of Truth and Inspiration
    In Politics you don't belong
    Please take out your frustration
    Mighty Orpheus, sing your song
    What happens to Earth
    When we are Gone?
    Or worse, What happens
    If we stay too long?

    Roil the Waters
    Roil the Seas
    Roil the Oceans
    If you please
    Roy'll bring you to your knees
    For all of your Hypocrisies

    Roy's voice is mightier
    Than your discord
    Seeing the world as it is
    Is its own reward

    Spreading Dissent and Joy
    From Tashkent to Illinois
    Heaven sent, Hell bent
    Angels and Demons, Dear Boy
    They've got NOTHING on Roy!

    Roil the Waters
    Roil the Seas
    Roil the Oceans
    of Hypocrisies
    Roy'll bring us all to our knees
    If we can't -- alone or together -- learn to live in Peace

    Democratically Deficient
    Socially Inept
    Republican Humiliation
    If only we looked before we leapt

    Commune Incommunicado
    National Pride before the Fall
    The Winter of our Discontent
    We don't take Dictation at all!

    Tyrannies,
    On your knees!

    Government and Religion
    Different edges of the same sword
    It may not be Politician
    But Almighty Profit is our Lord

    Divide and Conquer
    'Til the end of Time
    Wars and rumors and Horrors
    Buried under Lime

    Congress is the Opposite of Progress
    Striking every sour chord
    Parliament can't make a dent
    And the Kremlin's getting Bored

    Mullah's with their Mandates
    are Misguided and Outdated
    It's not just Women
    but, Everyone they hated

    Percy Bysshe Shelley
    had Blasphemy and Sedition
    Francisco Goya persecuted
    The Spanish Inquisition
    Roy Harper's cursed with
    Freedom of Expression
    but Unbridled Greed
    is the way to Succeed
    With Executive Ambition

    Roil the Waters
    Roil the Seas
    Roil the Oceans
    of Insanities
    Roy'll bring us all to our knees
    If we can't learn to live in Peace...

    -jwc

    And I get a twisted pleasure out of rhyming Roy with Joy, Boy and my home state of Illinois ('cause I didn't think it could actually be done without making me cringe). I haven't worked in enough of a reference to Roy's huge cache of romantic love songs, or mentions of Miles or Che or Stormcocks or The Prisoner -- had to leave something for the other contributors to a Roy tribute album (I can dream, can't I?). Get to work, people!
     
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  2. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    Thanks, Andi.

    To update, I've changed some of the lyrics and worked out most of my guitar accompaniment, but I'd still like to hear comments, especially what my lyrics mean to you. I am least happy with how the "Roil..." refrain resolves each time. "To Roil" means to stir up or make cloudy, kind of the opposite of what Roy fans think, i.e., Roy makes issues seem clearer. I've added a verse saying Politicians say things are clear but Roy shows they're not! I also love that "Roil" sounds exactly the same as "Roy'll" (and for that matter "Royal.").

    The title of this song could also be "My Comical Broy-mance." I mean, c'mon, really! Aren't I a little over they top in my admiration of Roy's many talents? Or will someone dare to say I don't extol Roy's talents enough? I think it would be amazing if others wrote their own songs and we could fill out an album dedicated to Roy.

    I expect to change a few more lyrics before I post my second final version. I've avoided re-posting updated versions of the lyrics as I progress. I haven't written a song this long since I was much younger. It has been time-consuming to try out different arrangements of the music. Thematically the music is relatively simple but progressive, and I think I'm still missing one more change or bridge. It gives me a new appreciation for the work Roy has done on his many longer songs.

    I'm obviously quite a contradiction. Contrarian but encouraging. Shunning celebrity, but (fill in the blank)... The odds are stacked against this ever becoming a big hit, but for me, the work/music is reward enough. I'm lucky enough to spare enough time.

    I hope the "Why" is obvious. Like most of us, I'd like to see Roy experience the recognition he deserves for his amazing body of work. This song represents that dream.
     
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  3. aspwatterson

    aspwatterson The Unknown Soldier

    The dream is never over, what more can I say, alive another day.... xxx
     
  4. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    "My Comical BROY-mance"

    Well, I'm pretty much finished with this song musically and lyrically. It's in its "perfect" form now. By "perfect" I merely mean the simplest most complete form that would allow anyone to learn it and do their own version. If you heard my original song "Model Woman" near the end of Podcast 35, I've gotten even better since then, but I haven't done any new recordings. Newer better versions of my old songs and recording my newer songs are on my to do list, so hopefully I'll make the song available in the future. If not, maybe I'll post guitar tabs for Roy's many fans to give it their own spin.

    This is the third or fourth re-write of the lyrics, and I've tried to shorten it for the potential of greater play if I ever become truly Ironic, i.e. not "No Celebrity." I've tried to limit the lyrics to Roy specific verses, so some of my favorite lyrics may end up in a back-burner called "2 Too Extreme."

    Please let me hear from you if this interests you. Unknown Artists live for feedback.

    What Is ODE To Roy?

    written by Jack W. Cramer © 2014

    Open up your ears!
    What do you see?
    Coincidence, or
    Conspiracy!
    The Best things in life are Free...
    Or at least they used to be

    What do you think, Mr. Harper?
    How do we be We?
    Preserving Truth, Life and Liberty
    Together the Humanities
    Seven Billion More and More and More
    Individualities

    You are the Muse of Truth and Inspiration
    In Politics you don't belong
    Please take out your frustration
    Mighty Orpheus, sing your song
    What happens to Earth when we are gone?
    Or worse, what happens if we stay too long?

    Roil the Waters
    Roil the Seas
    Roil the Oceans of Hypocrisies
    Don't you want to live in Peace?
    No more Inequalities

    Hey, World Leader
    You say things are clear
    The road is straight and narrow
    The price to pay will be dear
    But I can't help wondering
    What would Roy sing
    If he were here?

    Roil the Waters
    Roil the Seas
    Roil the Oceans of Petty Tyrannies
    Bloated from their gluttonies
    Choking on their crooked feast
    Who will tame the evil beast?
    Let all the fighting cease...

    Roy's voice is mightier than your discord
    Seeing the world as it is is its own reward
    Spreading Dissent and Joy
    From Tashkent to Illinois
    Angels and Demons have NOTHING on Roy
    Heaven sent, Hell bent!
    Dear boy...

    Roy is a lover
    Provocateur undercover

    Roil the Waters
    Roil the Seas
    Roil the Royal Surrealities
    Roy'll bring you to your knees
    Exposing your Hypocrisies

    Roy's voice is mightier than Lorelei's discord
    Perhaps being Roy is it's own reward
    Just not as angry as he seems
    Roy's gifted with better dreams
    Heaven sent, Hell bent!
    Roy is a lover
    Provocateur undercover


    Percy Bysshe Shelley had Blasphemy and Sedition
    Francisco Goya persecuted The Spanish Inquisition
    Roy Harper's cursed with Freedom of Expression
    Miles away Stormcocks play in the face of Oblivion
    Unbridled Greed
    Is the way to Succeed
    With Executive Ambition
    Divide and conquer 'til the end of time
    Wars and rumors and horrors buried under lime

    Open up your eyes
    What do you hear?
    The end is the beginning
    Karma's getting near
    The best things in life are free!
    For an additional handling fee

    Roil the Waters
    Roil the Seas
    Roil the Oceans of Insanities
    Don't you want to live in Peace?...



    -jwc
     
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  5. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    I swear I posted an intermediate version, but it wasn't here when I posted the most recent version. Suddenly, I miss the musical arrangement for the four half verses "Democratically..., Government..., Commune..., Congress..." which became two verses both ending with "Divide and Conquer..." until I shortened this from 8+ to 6+ minutes.

    I guess I'm following Roy's example with "One Of These Days..." and "The Death of God" and a few others. Can't make up my mind, so maybe I'll eventually record them both, or do a shorter version for when radio officially becomes a dinosaur.

    Thanks again, Andi, for your encouragement. It's a fun song to sing and play, but hard to be objective about how others will HEAR it. It's funny too, but no disrespect to Roy. I am over the top in my admiration of Roy. I mean, really... How many allusions to other heroes can you find?

    WHAT WOULD ROY SING?
     
  6. aspwatterson

    aspwatterson The Unknown Soldier

    An interesting question which I've been meaning to ask Royston for many years now.... it's quite easy to write a spontaneous poem or two about things that have been going round your head for years... but to arrange it to music, is a completely more complicated matter in my experience. Especially if you involve others like David Bedford, Jimmy Page etc... just playing in time with a band I have always had this problem and thus prefer to do it solo... would have loved to have taken it seriously all those years ago, but never mind, coz I just adore the sound of music especially the emotional resonance of the guitar! But Roy's answer would probably be : about how he gets inspired to write a song; some experiences in your life act in a culmination of many criteria [anything from drugs, relationship problems, to doing something alleged to be illegal, moments of meditative wonder etc. etc...] sometimes on a spontaneous moment, and it inspires you to write the visionary experience down if you are that way inclined. I do cryptic crosswords everyday and have words floating around in my head anyway - complete waste of time I know but it's my form of relaxation. He mentions this somewhere about how The Lords Prayer just flowed out of him spontaneously on a visionary moment as the summation of all mankind's woes & desires in this Universe. But when you read into the depth of his lyrics you know you are dealing with a very deep, well read, thinking person. Beauty can be found in the simplest of things like leaves floating down a stream, the colours of the foliage in Autumn {Fall} , one person's kind comment to you in the street etc., and can trigger a song /poem in you. When you look at his books/scraps of paper where he writes his lyrics down you also know he constructs over time, and changes them/crosses out words/lines and it can take forever until you are happy with it. When he issued the Green Man,, he says at one gig that it was the song that 'It can't get better than that' coz he actually managed to write down his mind as he wished to explain himself metaphorically on many strata, and was pleased with his effort at communication. Got to go now... to be continued Inshalla.... A x
     
  7. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    Well, it's obvious that you/Andi & I/Jack are fascinated with concepts of where creative/artistic inspiration comes from. That's why we love ROY! As the youngest of four children I received the most praise for my creativity and conversely less praise for "real work." I saw through most of that crap, because I wasn't a master artist, I just drew and made things, sang, learned to whistle and did paper animations all by the age of ten because I enjoyed it. I knew it would take years to get better at any art form, and never believed a lack of "natural talent" was a roadblock for anyone to find personal satisfaction or eventual success. I was not very good in group violin lessons at eight (plus, it hurt), too slow for my piano teacher at thirteen, but my brain absorbed things I still use today. I don't consider the first three songs I tried to write as an older teenager worthy of note. It was engaging in the process that bore fruit later.

    I'm now at fifteen songs I consider worthy written from the ages of twenty-one to fifty-five, or almost one every two years. Lyrical/melodic ideas pop into my head about every two weeks, but this is only an average. Teaching myself guitar forced me to experiment with different melodies and chord changes (I couldn't pick at all until my forties), and this is the source of half my musical themes, the rest come out of my mind. When my frame of mind is right, I can absorb complex melodies and memorize them for life. Other times, in the moment, I play and progress and am left in awe by the emotions, but frustrated when I can't re-trace my steps.

    I am the annoying, proverbial Jack-of-all-trades, creatively. I've written a sci-fi novel and satirical screenplay, both unpublished. I wrote the theme song for my screenplay "The Shuffle" in under an hour because I was trying to summarize what the satire was about (and my SECOND singer song-writing guitar-playing college girlfriend was also in a creative frenzy). My Novel "Project M4" (aka Magic and More Magic, Magic in the Fourth Dimension, Techno Warlock) has a theme song also, but it took over thirteen years to complete, though the initial spark always remained. In other words, inspiration takes many forms and many paths in my life. I've learned never to reject an inspiration because it was unorthodox. I have about six other unfinished songs on the back-burner.

    Andi, you are a creative brother. I do crosswords too (no longer daily), quote-acrostics, and jumbles. If you remember my recorded intro to my "Model Woman" in podcast 35, I've never had or played in a band either. I'm not nervous about singing, but I am about my guitar playing. Don't let that stop you. My musical friends with more skill envy that I am now a "recording artist." I've only performed musically before a group larger than ten a couple times since I sang in school chorus. I was stunned and gratified by the outburst of applause (the praise is usually for my voice).

    So don't question why you're inspired when in the moment. Know that 99% of your inspirations will fizzle, but 1% will be glorious, even if you're the only that gets it sometimes. I know Roy is a big reason I understand this. I still remember that clip of you playing guitar beautifully, so never stop. You get it. I hope some day, people (plural) will compare my work to Roy's, and I wish the same for you!!!
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2014
  8. aspwatterson

    aspwatterson The Unknown Soldier

    I think I may have asked this before, but are you in touch with Bill Khron on Facebook over there? Or don't you do FB? He's a fellow appreciative Harpernaut but not sure if he plays his own stuff? But I know you'd appreciate his posts... x I'll send you my old embryonic album of doodling on guitar and poetry if you message me your addy on here or on aspwatterson1@hotmail.co.uk x
     
  9. aspwatterson

    aspwatterson The Unknown Soldier

    The other remaining question in my head was do you need an ego to perform in public? To a certain extent you have to believe in yourself and other people's encouragement definitely helps. Some very shy people have become famous without really wanting to...e.g. Bert Jansch, Sid Barrett etc.. I've always struggled with this and the song that comes into mind is "Don't believe in yourself, knowledge is a deadly friend in the hands of fools", or something like "Confusion will be my epitaph" etc. Alcohol can give a false sense of security up to a certain pint [point!] and then, if too inebriated, the guitar, tuning,vocal attempts go awry, and microphone cables can trip up the unwary; even though when you're pissed it sounds wonderful and you think everyone loves you! Nick asked if I was going to play my tribute "Hats off to Jimmy Page" at Avebury this year but I chickened out and blamed stage fright. I am surprised at how nervous I get without a drink, especially considering I was in St Stephens Church choir for many years and we did concerts around Europe, me as head chorister unbelievably.... One of the most nerve racking experiences was singing "Once in royal Davids city" as a solo in front of 2000 people in Rochester cathedral, Kent. I had to walk up all these steps to the pulpit area and by the time I got there, I was out of breath, shaking, sweating and my voice came out with a tremelo effect! My parents were stuck behind a big pillar and didn't know it was me. These days we can cheat with all sorts of tuning aids, but when you get half way through a song it's very difficult to carry on [especially if you are singing as well] if strings start to go out of tune... which is why I admire Nick so much as he make the tuning up sound part of the song! Before I did a gig at Highbury College , Cosham my friend made [moreless forced!] me smoke something massive, and it took me ages to get the guitar in tune and promptly went on the stage and tripped over so took ages to get the guitar back in tune! One of the tricks is try not to bend the strings too much or play it too heavy if you've got a lightweight guitar/strings otherwise it will definitely start to detune. Or get too stoned! Paranoia man! Anyway rant over... x
     
  10. aspwatterson

    aspwatterson The Unknown Soldier

    Think I've just about recovered from the Clonakilty guitar festival week...think I'll have a Guinness to celebrate! Followed by a nice bottle of warm ginger wine... and so it goes on....ha! x

     
  11. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    "Where'd 'ego?" or "Weird Ego" it doesn't matter. I generally do not even get asked to perform. I don't get nervous about my singing, a bad note here or there but my voice stays strong enough to power through and get applause (if I've had a chance to warm up -- I usually sing in the car on the way). But I get nervous and bump my guitar when I think about playing. It's best to have one song ready and stick with it unless you get to play a lot -- or so I'm told. Once I start singing, the guitar playing becomes more automatic, at least with the few polite crowds I've had.
     
  12. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    I haven't commented on this song for over a year now. I did another rearrangement of the verses and added back the "congress" and similar verses, but now they're where they belong lyrically and musically. I still practice it a few times a week (it plays to about 8:45 in length, if I don't screw up the many changes).

    I re-read your comments, Andi, and thanks again. Arranging music is almost always an ongoing process that takes time. Sometimes a simple arrangement is best and can form almost completely in an instant. Don't expect it to be easy, and don't assume you will always fail. You write enough, and your experience will vary wildly. If Roy wants to argue this point with me, he is welcome to, but I'll freak out if I hear he's wondering why it's taking me so long to record even a simple version of it (and then make the world listen).

    Big Smile!
     
  13. NoCelebrity

    NoCelebrity Aye lad, I knew you had it in you

    Still playing with the song title too.

    Ode to Roy. "Eau d'Roy!" anyone? Odor Oy! Corduroy?
     

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