The Roy Harper Podcast Episode 25 - Shownotes

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In the August 2009 episode:

Intro (Background music: The Great Roy Harper by Adam Leonard)


Download Hors D'Oeuvres from

Exercising Some Control from Folkjokeopus
Bupa from Poems, Speeches, Thoughts and Doodles (currently unavailable)

An interview with Nigel Mazlyn Jones (part two of two), conducted by John Cholmondeley

The tracks played during this interview are:

Spirit Moves from Mazlyn Jones and Guy Evans with Nik Turner and Friends - Live
Planet For Sale from Planet For Sale

Nigel has given me a set of interesting links that you may like to explore:

Official NMJ Web Sites     NMJ  original web site    NMJ new web site
Radio Interview June 2009  NMJ on Roy Harper’s radio station interview part 1 2009
Web Interview Article June 09  Interview and Sentinel plus Planet for $ale insights
Acoustic Live Extracts   NMJ 2004 Live Acoustic clips of ‘Ship to Shore’ and full length ‘Behind the Stone’ from The Roadhouse Birmingham UK      2008 Live ‘The Hare’s Leap’ (‘Breaking Cover’) at The Cellar  Bar, Cardigan, Wales   2008 Live ‘On A Singularly Fine Day’ at The Cellar Bar, Cardigan, Wales
Non Acoustic....Planet For $ale   TV programme ‘Planet for $ale’    ‘Planet for $ale’ BBC 2 TV soundtrack and free download of first 2 tracks of the new ‘Planet for $ale’ album. Profits to Eco charities      ‘Planet for $ale’ web pages   ‘Planet for $ale’ charity donations
The Younger NMJ 1980’s    NMJ live video album extracts from 1987 ish ‘Sentinel’ … plus loads more listed on You Tube
- - - - - - -      1987 ish Winds NMJ video album      1987 ish Beside the Water NMJ video album  1983 we think, Elephant Fair tv news feature ‘Breaking Cover’ (also known as ‘The Hare’s Leap’)  First album ‘Ship to Shore’ still sailing. Number 33 in this chart, “ Mojo presents 50 genre-bending classics that, over the last 40 years, have taken folk music out of the fishing cottages and into the stratosphere. So settle back, pour a cup of Liberty cap tea and let's go beyond ... “

John Cholmondeley's bio:

Born too late for my musical taste, I first discovered Roy via Jugula and a gig at Malvern in the summer of '85. My mates were disappointed Jimmy Page didn't turn up, but I was blown away. I'd never seen anyone play anything as long or intense as OOTDIE ... and it all sat very well with my love of stuff like Solid Air. First saw Maz early one morning at Glastonbury in the mid '90's - loved his music too. Must be something about an acoustic guitar and a big PA ...??

Blackpool from Live at Les Cousins

A-Z of Harper: 'X' for X-Rated

Don't You Grieve from Flashes From The Archives of Oblivion

Listener Feedback

Beyond the Door Charity Auction: contact celtcoates [at] btinternet [dot] com with offers

Competition results

Credits and Links

Please note that music used in the podcast is copyrighted and used with permission.
For all your Roy Harper music needs visit
For all your Nigel Mazlyn Jones needs visit
The intro music is by Adam Leonard, see for info
Incidental music is from Apple's Garageband and Logic Express library and is free to use

Nick Harper's charity page is at

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Alan Jones's picture

Podcast thoughts

I’ve not heard the last four or five pod casts (please keep them to CD-burnable size, Paul!) so I didn’t think the second part of the Nigel Mazlyn Jones interview would be particularly interesting. But I did enjoy it - and the guest interviewer idea is a good one.  It does make it feel like a “Stormcock community”.

There were a couple of things Nigel said which I thought were particularly interesting.  One was about the impact of those early albums by people where it’s just them, their acoustic guitar, and the intensity that has driven them to do this weird thing of putting their thoughts to music and then singing and playing them to anyone who’ll listen.  A lot of my favourite albums are ones like these - “The Freewheeling Bob Dylan”, “It’s My Way”, by Buffy Sainte-Marie, and “Rainmaker” by Michael Chapman.   I don’t want to come over like the bloke who shouted out “Judas” to Bob Dylan at the Manchester Free Trade Hall - and I guess that artists must feel limited in what they can do if it’s always them and their acoustic - but when people who have done excellent work in that format get a “rock” band behind them, to me it often sounds clunky and I go off them at that point.  It happened with Michael Chapman and “Wrecked Again”, with Loudon Wainwright’s third album, and to a lesser extent, with Roy when “Lifemask” came out (the first of his albums that I was disappointed with).

The other thing Nigel said which got me thinking was his distinction between music which is “full of light” and music which is “full of darkness”.  I was surprised that he singled out John Martyn as someone whose music was in the “darkness” category.  John’s life may have been a complete mess, with a lot of darkness in it, but his music through the whole of the 40 years he was making it, has been for me the most consistently uplifting of any artist.  I wonder what Nigel means by light” and “darkness”.  Is it just something about the themes that the artist focuses on?  Because surely you can comment on some of the darker stuff that goes on in the world without being part of it.  I get the impression that Nigel means that certain artists not only comment on the darkness but identify with it.

Could it be something about the mood state that the music induces?  There are certainly lots of kinds of music I can’t listen to because the overall sound is so depressing (sorry, Paul, but for me one of the prime examples of this is Van Der Graaf generator!) but that would also include a lot of cheesy pop and string quartets (which invariably sound scratchy and neurotic to me).  Does that make them part of the musical darkness, too?

I also get the idea that it’s not just a personal response to the music that Nigel’s going on about, but that he’s talking about a sort of “good versus evil” dimension existing beyond the realm of individual aesthetic taste or moral choice - looks like we’re getting into spiritual territory here!  Although I never really liked them much, I never got  that sense of darkness from Led Zeppelin’s music, although Jimmy Page’s absorbing interest in Aleister Crowley does give a hint about “the dark side”…

What do other people out there think?

Alan Jones

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Musical darkness

I haven't yet heard this podcast but I think I know what Nigel means about John Martyn's darkness.  It starts for me with The Gardeners on The Tumbler but really comes to the fore with Solid Air, Bad Dreams and I'd Rather Be The Devil.  Much of Inside Out is moody and intense as well.  Even a love song like So Much In Love With You is about the deep visceral aching pain of being without his lover and the music totally conveys exquisite pain.  I coud go on but this is a Roy Harper site!


Dr_Doom_The_Optimist's picture

Intro music

"The intro music is by Adam Leonard, see for info".

Hiya Paul, that MySpace page doesn't exist anymore. I can now be found at



pd's picture


Thanks for the info Adam, I've edited the shownotes accordingly.