Favourite chord ?

[aspwatterson]

My favourite chord, amongst many, is :

Acoustic Standard tuning EADGBE [not tried it on an electric yet - could be quite phenomenal with effects or a wah-wah bar?].

2nd fret A string; with 4th fret D string

Pick all the strings in downward motion and then back upwards again [or use a plectrum]. Sounds even better with a 12 string. When you play it you can alter the whereabouts of your picking hand towards the bridge or towards the nut, not just over the hole. Totally different incisive sound. Wonder if Fuzzy agrees with me? It always sound like a dark cavenous echoey mysterious sound to me.

It's the main chord in 'Welcome to my nightmare I hope I didn't scare you' by our Alice Cooper. Also Roy uses it, particularly in 'Me & my woman' but more major-like with an extra finger holding down the 4th fret on the G string before he does the exquisite bass descending bit and goes to the chord G and then Bminor and A...


chrs 4 noo....sphere
andi

[Shaun Woods]

You mean the Emadd9?

Used on erm... 12 Hours to sunset and also used on Breathe and Time by Pink Floyd... Also used by Dido, and a lot more too..

Very nice chord...

Very nice if followed by one of my other fave chords

DOnt know the name...

7th Fret A string.
9th Fret D string.
9th Fret G string.

Let ALL strings ring out...

ALso didnae know it was the main chord in 1948ish...

Hmmm...

I've just been playing 1948ish... too...

Well.. Sorta...

[Shane]

Nerds!

Wedgie!

[aspwatterson]

I'm trying to remember Roy's song that starts "I'm looking to build a world..."..
just can't remember which album even. The main reason is to track down the tab for the wonderful chord he slides down as some gallivating antelope on speed heading down a fast flowing cattaract of a stream/waterfall. Can anyone help? Fuzzy where are you? :confused1:

The only nerds around here are the ones that criticise others who can actually can play the damn thing and sit there all judgemental because they can't! Right got that off my chest! Ian are you listening? :mad: Also all this comparing different genres/artist[e]s on polls etc. is a waste of time.. everyone's just different! Roy's not better than Bob, Bob not's better than Neil etc. etc.. just simply blooming different

There you go,I've had my say chaps & dolls!


aw :iamwithstupid:

[Shane]

ah i was only messin :p

i think the tune you are referring to is Work of Heart, specifically the "All Us Children (So Sadly Far Apart)" bit

[aspwatterson]

ah i was only messin :p

i think the tune you are referring to is Work of Heart, specifically the "All Us Children (So Sadly Far Apart)" bit


I think you are right coz I seem to remeber 'heart to heart' as part of the lyrics? Will try and track it down on the Google Tab sites later. Chrs andy :w00t:

[Shaun Woods]

Just been listening to that, sounds like a capo jobbie...

Dunno, off the top of my head, sounds like some sort of D shaped chord...

Maybe an E?

Dinnae...

aspwatterson, do you have any transcriptions for 1948ish?

[SHAUN I]

I'm not a big guitar player I have a mess about occasionally with a few chords, there are quite a few guitar transcriptions of Roy's songs on the HQ site..

http://musicnaut.iki.fi/musicnaut/royharper/guitar/index.html

Hope it helps

Regards

[Shaun Woods]

I'm not a big guitar player I have a mess about occasionally with a few chords, there are quite a few guitar transcriptions of Roy's songs on the HQ site..

http://musicnaut.iki.fi/musicnaut/royharper/guitar/index.html

Hope it helps

Regards

Aye, thanks for that.. Been on there, got some good stuff..

The thing with Roy's music, is that, it can or could be played in SO many different ways...

It's quite hard to transcribe at times.

[fuzzytnth3]

My favourite chord, amongst many, is :

Acoustic Standard tuning EADGBE [not tried it on an electric yet - could be quite phenomenal with effects or a wah-wah bar?].

2nd fret A string; with 4th fret D string

Pick all the strings in downward motion and then back upwards again [or use a plectrum]. Sounds even better with a 12 string. When you play it you can alter the whereabouts of your picking hand towards the bridge or towards the nut, not just over the hole. Totally different incisive sound. Wonder if Fuzzy agrees with me? It always sound like a dark cavernous echoey mysterious sound to me.


I know what you mean and I have a 12 string to so I can get the full effect but my fav chord at the moment is the first one on "How Does it Feel" which I believe is simply a D chord with C# added

d 0
A 0
G 2
D 0
A 4
D 0

DADGAD tuning btw. it's really a discord but a great sound none the less. In fact in the same song I love the sequence of chords running down from the 12th fret checkout Musicnaut's tab page (http://musicnaut.iki.fi/musicnaut/royharper.html)

Anyhoo I'm off to see if I can transcribe "When an Old Cricketer" so I can play it my crimbo pressie a dusky pink coloured ukulele :blushing:

[fuzzytnth3]

Anyhoo I'm off to see if I can transcribe "When an Old Cricketer" so I can play it my crimbo pressie a dusky pink coloured ukulele :blushing:

Nah hah Chordie.com (http://www.chordie.com) to the rescue

Here are the chords for a Uke tuned to C

http://homepage.mac.com/fuzzytnth3/trapdoor/chordieuke.jpg

How good it sounds is another thing entirely!

[aspwatterson]

I know what you mean and I have a 12 string to so I can get the full effect but my fav chord at the moment is the first one on "How Does it Feel" which I believe is simply a D chord with C# added

d 0
A 0
G 2
D 0
A 4
D 0

DADGAD tuning btw. it's really a discord but a great sound none the less. In fact in the same song I love the sequence of chords running down from the 12th fret checkout Musicnaut's tab page (http://musicnaut.iki.fi/musicnaut/royharper.html)

Anyhoo I'm off to see if I can transcribe "When an Old Cricketer" so I can play it my crimbo pressie a dusky pink coloured ukulele :blushing:

I've always played 'How does it feel' with the E shape [no bar] on the 9th,7th frets [or is it 10th & 8th? Haven't got my guitar with me!] and 1st fret [with a hammer on the G string fret one to two] and after each cycle the 13th fret in Standard Tuning and it always has sounded alright to me... the discordancy is the key... perhaps to how do you feel perhaps?? A pure dichotomy!!

aw :gnorsi::party::sifone:

ps For some strange reason I'm not being alerted to when I get a reply to threads anymore which I'm involved with. Looks like I'll have to check my profile when I first signed up as it must have changed somehow. Has Paul been doing some tinkering recently?

[aspwatterson]

I'm trying to remember Roy's song that starts "I'm looking to build a world..."..
just can't remember which album even. The main reason is to track down the tab for the wonderful chord he slides down as some gallivating antelope on speed heading down a fast flowing cattaract of a stream/waterfall. Can anyone help? Fuzzy where are you? :confused1:

The only nerds around here are the ones that criticise others who can actually can play the damn thing and sit there all judgemental because they can't! Right got that off my chest! Ian are you listening? :mad: Also all this comparing different genres/artist[e]s on polls etc. is a waste of time.. everyone's just different! Roy's not better than Bob, Bob not's better than Neil etc. etc.. just simply blooming different

There you go,I've had my say chaps & dolls!



aw :iamwithstupid:

Sounds like a moveable one??

aw

[Craig_Powers]

Has anyone tabbed out any of Nicks stuff. I know that that is very difficult because of his incredible skill, low tunings etc, but still possible to get the essence of some of his songs.

I tried to see what Glenn Tilbrook was doing on Verse Time Forgot on the Love is Music DVD but couldn't see enough of the fretboard to work it out.

Craig
(just learning guitar, its early days...)

[SHAUN I]

Has anyone tabbed out any of Nicks stuff. I know that that is very difficult because of his incredible skill, low tunings etc, but still possible to get the essence of some of his songs.

I tried to see what Glenn Tilbrook was doing on Verse Time Forgot on the Love is Music DVD but couldn't see enough of the fretboard to work it out.

Craig
(just learning guitar, its early days...)

There are a couple of songs on HQ site of Nicks The magnificent G - Seven and Three Magpies..link is below.

http://musicnaut.iki.fi/musicnaut/royharper/guitar/index.html

[scotpaulabear]

And a few more tabs on Rooben's sadly quiet site:
http://www.rooben.com/

[SHAUN I]

For the talented guitarists in our midst I found another site with tabs that aren't on HQ, Big Fat Silver Aeroplane and Feeling All The Saturday if your interested the link's below - happy strumming...:biggrin:

http://www.tabcrawler.com/search.php?show=archive&letter=r&artist=roy%20harper&page=1

[aspwatterson]

For the talented guitarists in our midst I found another site with tabs that aren't on HQ, Big Fat Silver Aeroplane and Feeling All The Saturday if your interested the link's below - happy strumming...:biggrin:

http://www.tabcrawler.com/search.php?show=archive&letter=r&artist=roy%20harper&page=1

Shaun! You are a diamond! Emma on the Mistlethrush email exchange has been looking for this tab for ages. I tried to play it in Open D but it never sounded right. A thousand thank yous! It'll make her day, month, 9 months, year! She's just announced that she's pregnant to the Harper world at large. She also happens to be the one in the Quiz Obscura who met a Rolling Stone in North Wales last year drunk out of her head with no shoes on at 4am in a hotel who recounted a 'rock & roll' incident about him and Roy. I'll give her the URL now.. you might enjoy the banter on the Mistlethrush if you are not alraedy a subscriber..


chrs
andi

[fuzzytnth3]

Has anyone tabbed out any of Nicks stuff. I know that that is very difficult because of his incredible skill, low tunings etc, but still possible to get the essence of some of his songs.

I tried to see what Glenn Tilbrook was doing on Verse Time Forgot on the Love is Music DVD but couldn't see enough of the fretboard to work it out.

Craig
(just learning guitar, its early days...)

While it's not how Nick plays it (by a long way) I have described here (http://www.stormcock.net/node/191) how to play Imaginary Friend. As I'm playing in a normal tuning I suspect the twiddly stuff is a bit more fiendish than the how Nick plays it.

On Rooben's site (I think it was) he has a normal tuning version of Three Magpies. The tune I'm currently trying to get my head round is The Field of the Cloth of Gold it sounds deceptively simple (but fast) but I haven't got anywhere near it yet :(

I've had a bash at sussing out what Glenn plays but I haven't finished it yet one day one day.....

ps my version of Big Fat Silver Aeroplane is here (http://www.stormcock.net/node/234#comment-578)

[Craig_Powers]

Thanks for the chords for Imaginary Friend.

....One my my guitar homework!

Whenever I hear the songe now I recall the Manchester gig were the girl in the audience wanted Nick to sing down the mobile phobe to her toddler back at home.

Cheers
Craig

[HarperPR]

Never mind the chords - what was the rock n roll incident?

[aspwatterson]

Never mind the chords - what was the rock n roll incident?


I can't tell you coz it's not fair as it's part of the Quiz Obscura with prizes [closing date 28/1/08 1000am]. What about answering the final question about Nick on the Fun Quiz then you may win the prize recently offered for that; as long as you are not classed as a Proxy of Nicks?

chrs
andi

[aspwatterson]

Has anyone tabbed out any of Nicks stuff. I know that that is very difficult because of his incredible skill, low tunings etc, but still possible to get the essence of some of his songs.

I tried to see what Glenn Tilbrook was doing on Verse Time Forgot on the Love is Music DVD but couldn't see enough of the fretboard to work it out.

Craig
(just learning guitar, its early days...)

Exactly what I was going to thread next!! Is there a market for Roy & Nick's music tabbed in book form in the shops? Or CD/DVD issue? A melody of Harpers! [melody being the correct collective noun for a group of harpers - if you don't believe me look it up!]

aw


aw

[Craig_Powers]

There are lots of copyright issues re: tabbing out music and putting it on the web...hence the demise of some sites offering tab. But with Roy and Nick being in control of their own output I would imagine it would be no issue. No record company with over zealous lawyers

When I try to learn a song from internet tab I'm more likely to go out and buy the CD, so it promote sales rather than reduces it.

I would certainly buy a book (or download) of Roy or Nicks music, but given that I'm learning guitar I'd prefer songs tabbed in standard tuning. I'm not sure I could even play a guitar with top E on 13's gauge strings.

Craig

[Shaun Woods]

I'm going to have a go at tabbing Work Of Heart over the weekend, will post my results over the week...

I'm wondering whether he uses alternative tuning for this, but it's not far chords from Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall.

[aspwatterson]

I'm going to have a go at tabbing Work Of Heart over the weekend, will post my results over the week...

I'm wondering whether he uses alternative tuning for this, but it's not far chords from Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall.

Look forward to it.. imagine it must be alt. tuning but you never know with Roy.. I've seen him play the same songs in Standard and Open tunings.
'Forever' is an example... have you seen his fretwork on this on the Youtube or was it Myspace or Harperspace ...can't remember?


sean andy

[Shaun Woods]

I always go by the bass, I mean...

Mostly any altered tuning... Mostly, has a dropped bass E, if you listen out for that, thats usually the key...

[wessexy witch]

My favorate chord is chunky brown chord.
:rofl::smilielol5:

[fickle_Witch]

:rofl:
that gave me belly laugh! thanx wessexy!!

[wessexy witch]

:rofl:
that gave me belly laugh! thanx wessexy!!

'sawrite!
Glad to be of service!!
:biggrinjester:

[aspwatterson]

I think Shaun mentioned he had a twelve string?
Have you tried just the top octaves on the 6 strings?
I call it 'high tuning' and if the top G is too thin and flexible to get a decent sound then use the ordinary lower G. It's an amazing way to get fine picking with minimum effort. Have I confused you like playing Origami on the guitar?


aw :w00t:

[aspwatterson]

"...strings should be slackened at high altitudes as the difference in pressure can cause neck to shift and if strings are tight can causes breakages..."

www.heavymusic.com/guitar-strings.htm

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guitar/Adjusting_the_Guitar

Or even lower the bridge?

andi :m9:

[aspwatterson]

Alternate tunings....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scordatura#Scordatura_for_the_guitar

andi

[SHAUN I]

FCGD = Cajun Tuning (one whole step down from GDAE)
GDGB = Open G Tuning
GDGD = Sawmill Tuning
GDAD = "Gee-Dad"
DDAD = Dead Man's Tuning, or Open D Tuning, or Bonaparte's Retreat Tuning, or "Dee-Dad"
ADAE = Old-Timey D Tuning
AEAE = High Bass, High Counter (or High Bass, High Tenor) similar to Sawmill Tuning
AEAC♯ = Black Mountain Rag Tuning, Calico Tuning, Open A Tuning, or Drunken Hiccups Tuning
AEAD for Old Sledge, Silver Lake
EDAE for Glory in the Meeting House
EEAE for Get up in the Cool

Interesting article, I can play a few chords but am a bit clueless when it comes to the technical jargon etc. I didn't see the DADGAD tuning in the above list that Roy uses on a lot of tracks. Is it a rare tuning set up among musicians? :m8:

[aspwatterson]

Just Google search 'DADGAD' and there's 127,000 sites. How many more do you need?

One of my favs is Open C tuning with the treble E up to an F [which is the one of mine on Splinters III] which gives you a very wide spectrum but would not know what you'd call it technically? Depending on gauge [and state/make of the strings] though is subject to string breakages,so it's best not to do it on your mate's guitar like I did and broke two strings coz the B also goes up to a C. Would love to be able to afford a custom built like Nick taking the strings/gauges to unbeknown parameters!


cheers
andi

[SHAUN I]

Just Google search 'DADGAD' and there's 127,000 sites. How many more do you need?
I don't need any! I was just curious if it was a popular choice among musicians in general.. :m14:

[aspwatterson]

I don't need any! I was just curious if it was a popular choice among musicians in general.. :m14:

I have tended to get stuck in Open D over the years with the F# but do like DADGAD but would not say am proficient at all in it. Just a couple of songs I play repetitively..... Open G capoed on 7th fret is pretty cool...

Wait till I resurrect myself again from the last 25 years of various 'trials and tribulations' stuck in a mushroom valley of mortgages, losing properties,jobs, relationships....and at last I am going to be free with my beautiful children grown up now with jobs, and a place of my own in June;at last to redevelop the rest of my life creatively doing what I wanna do! Thinking of building a recording studio in the brick shed out the back garden and call it the Sanctuary....

There's now some good cheap magic boxes that do all the tricks and it should be within budget. Might ask Roy if he can advise me how to build a pond.. only jesting.. maybe just a little fountain waterfall edifice thingy that sings to me? Now there's an invention to ponder? A singing fridge which you can programme Harperesquely when you open the door to help you with your diet or mood? Sorry I'm drifting into digressions again.. bad habit of mine as Paul would probably vouch.

chrs
andi :biggrin:

[SHAUN I]

:rolleyes: I'm guilty of that too Andy, nowhere threads and tangents are the fabric of the map of life! :tongue_smilie:

[telemonster]

Am7...? (open chord, 2 fingers-not 4).

and i also like that open C with a D on the 2nd string!

[aspwatterson]

Am7...? (open chord, 2 fingers-not 4).

and i also like that open C with a D on the 2nd string!

In standard tuning? Can we have a diagram please?

I like the shape C on top five strings with the bass E down to C if the guitar can handle it without the strings rattling on the fretboard. Gives it extra subteranean resonance man.

chrs
aw :m3:

[telemonster]

ooops, i forgot a finger!

yes, standard tuning-i only use standard tuning-my brain can't cope with any more than that!

E a d g b e

X 3 2 0 3 3

i believe it's called C add9

the Am7 one goes:

E a d g b e

X 0 2 0 1 0

works well with 'D'

[aspwatterson]

Never mind the chords - what was the rock n roll incident?

Took your advice Lin and abandoned the Quiz thingy. Don't think anyone likes the Eagles as a prize anyway maybe? The rock and roll incident recounted by Emma was told to her at 4 in the morning by a Rolling Stone when she bumped into him drunk in a hotel in North Wales after she'd had dip in the Irish Sea attending an inebriated wedding/reception and was shoeless/mindless. Can't remember which Rolling Stone [wasn't Jagger] but she asked him if he'd had any rock and roll incidents with Roy. And he said the one he remembered was peeing off the top of multi-storey car park and getting arrested with him.

there ou go..one for the scrapbook
chrs
andi

[critch]

How can anyone have a favourite chord? I've always felt it wasn't individual chords but how they are placed together.

Take gershwin for example. A lot of the chords he used had all been used before many times. It was the cadences and keychanges that created that new fresh unique sound, which sounds so rich. The individual chords often sound ordinary.

I remember my music teacher at school playing the piano as i entered the classroom one time. I was blown away by the chords he was playing and asked him what they were. He played a few chords and said, "Even this one?"

I exclaimed yes and virtually demanded he told me what it was. He told me it was G major.

Thus he'd demonstrated the context of harmony is just as important as the harmonies themselves.

[aspwatterson]

How can anyone have a favourite chord? I've always felt it wasn't individual chords but how they are placed together.

Take gershwin for example. A lot of the chords he used had all been used before many times. It was the cadences and keychanges that created that new fresh unique sound, which sounds so rich. The individual chords often sound ordinary.

I remember my music teacher at school playing the piano as i entered the classroom one time. I was blown away by the chords he was playing and asked him what they were. He played a few chords and said, "Even this one?"

I exclaimed yes and virtually demanded he told me what it was. He told me it was G major.

Thus he'd demonstrated the context of harmony is just as important as the harmonies themselves.

There are a few chords on a guitar that are deep never ending and cavernous, mixing minor with major, where discordancy creates quite an unnerving entity within it's perturbing resonancy of sharp jolts of wakefulness. Perhaps I should start writing reviews Lin? Am I getting better at bull****e??!!

andy

[NoCelebrity]

I found the TAB for words and music after all. Having read all these posts, commenting on the last few especially...
I don't have a favorite chord, but every instrument has better sounds you can coax out of it.
I started teaching myself guitar 'cause I wanted to write music for my films in college and tiny electric pianos weren't cheap in 1980. Two girlfriends also wrote and played on guitar. For twenty years, all I could play was strummy stuff, great rhythms, strictly for accompaniment.
I have 'perfect pitch' (which according to some means you can hear a melody once and repeat it perfectly). If I don't work out a melody in my head until it's on paper or memorized, I'll lose it. Same with lyrics.
Now I'm figuring out different ways to play lead. I watch other performers and pick stuff up, but I'm not so good at talking details. I read music slowly, I mostly just play by ear and found I'm ten times better that way. I always push myself two levels beyond what I know I can play, so I often think I sound like crap, but I'm having fun.
Until recently, I found I had very little success with other people's music. Except for "Gallows Pole" and a couple other Rock tunes, I concentrated on my own music. What does it say that more recently I figured out "Cherishing the Lonesome" followed up by Steely Dan's version of Duke Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-oo" (only one or two lines of melody repeat)?
I love the beginning guitar of "Cherishing" because it's a descending interplay of minor thirds and majors, and its one of the few picking/lead parts I can play and sing along with. The way I play it...
g14,17,14; g16,13,d14; g12,15,12; g14,d16,a17.
(Once at beginning, repeat 4 times for first three and last verse)
g16 pull-off to g14,d16,a17; (repeat once);
g14 pull-off to g12,d14,a15; d12.
Note: the guitarist uses seven consecutive semi-tones (g-flat through c). Since I'm not a professional musician, what key is that? (kidding)

I apologize I didn't keep this shorter, or stick to a more limited topic. I don't often participate with online forums, but finding more Roy last year after a long drought is of great interest to me (read my other posts on this my first day on the site, local time). Would especially love to hear from other amateur or professional creatives and will definitely try to respond with positive insight and inspiration to each. Thanks!

Jack C.

[Tristanjay]

for me a chord I do love and from the song that got me hooked -
d-0
a-0
d-0
g-2
a-3
d-0

From one man rock and roll band.

[aspwatterson]

for me a chord I do love and from the song that got me hooked -
d-0
a-0
d-0
g-2
a-3
d-0

From one man rock and roll band.
:m23:

andi

[Tristanjay]

thanks muchly andi downloading it .............now.

[NoCelebrity]

I agree with CRITCH that it's the interplay between chords. Majors are powerful/blunt; Minors, Sevenths, blended/abbreviated(?) chords are curious and transitional in my mind. But try reversing these roles I(or)we attach to our music and find new forms of expression. :m23:

I love it when ROY finds forms of musical expression that mirror/accent and/or contrast the emotions of his lyrics.

I play mostly Majors, "open" chords (I cheat a lot!) and some Sevenths for accompaniment, which I usually play strumming with tricky rhythms and changes.

When I play lead I usually can't sing, I play by ear, and am sometimes surprised by the chords/key I am playing in. I wish I could figure out how to play ROY's classical guitar style. I can't quite figure out how to play two or more themes at once on the guitar (actually, I just can't do it. However, I can sing a separate theme while strumming tricky rhythms. :confused1:).

Anyone have any hints or ideas?


Recently favorite chords, standard tuning:
E-O E-0
A-7 A-7
D-6 D-6
G-7 G-7
B-8 * B-5 *
E-0 E-0
:m3::driving:

[aspwatterson]

Just located the TAB for this old fav of mine which I had totally forgotten about in the mists of times past. Anyone needs help to find it just PM me.

chrs
andi :14::26::16:

[fuzzytnth3]

I wish I could figure out how to play ROY's classical guitar style. I can't quite figure out how to play two or more themes at once on the guitar (actually, I just can't do it. However, I can sing a separate theme while strumming tricky rhythms. :confused1:).

Anyone have any hints or ideas?


I'm not sure if this will help but I started learning guitar by using a book called "Tune a Day For Classical Guitar Book 2" (http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/01950/details.html) , this book introduced me to the ideas of musical notation, arpeggios and the like but interestingly not chords as such (edit I just dug out the book and discovered that the last two pages are to do with chords :) ) but I got a chord book and sussed that out myself and I took it from there.

A friend wanted to perform Ralph Mactell's "Streets of London" at the schools folk club with him singing and playing a double bass and with me playing the guitar which I had started to learn a few weeks earlier. As we rehearsed I became frustrated with just strumming the chords (mostly as I hadn't found out how to strum very well that F major barr chord killed me!) and I tried to see if I could play it with arpeggios instead and found that it worked.

From there I started to buy a few more Classical guitar music books and found that tunes written by Scarlatti and Bach just worked beautifully. Funnily enough the reason why so many of Bach and Scarlatti's tunes were "easy" to play were that they used a lot of chord shapes which I had just started to get my head round. A friend of mine who had just at the time got her professional qualifications in music as a Viola player had never realised this simple fact until I mentioned it to her and showed her on the guitar how Bach's tunes most of the time used comminal garden chord shapes. She had always read the music in a linear form never as chords as she was playing an instrument that generally plays one note at a time (not all the time listen to some Paganni (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huPX1NzK1dw&feature=related)for the exception to the rule!)

With a grounding particularly in Bach (the Lute Suites are amazing) which weirdly you may think but seems completely natural if you have played some Bach led on to an interest in jazz guitar at the time Joe Pass (http://www.di-arezzo.co.uk/detail_notice.php?no_article=melby00542) but later also Wes Montgomery. Now I never really made much head way with jazz but it did give me the freedom to approach tunes that I know well and to improvise with them particularly the chords or two note combinations which Bach uses so much which funnily enough leads back to the arpeggios and the like.

Having said all that I still can't play Davey Graham's Anji all the way through and worst of all I can play a version of Roy's "Girl from the North Country" but I still haven't sussed how Roy plays it. I think I've got the chords but not what he is actually plucking out, but I am sure one day I will suss it fingers crossed :)

[NoCelebrity]

Thanks fuzzytnth3! Now if I only remember who you were and where you said it when my group Blues Guitar Class is over. Why don't you visit Winnetka and give me a demo in the meantime?

Love reading your POV learning guitar. My class has me practicing many new things and unusual chords, and more old things in new ways. It's all good. We probably sound good to most, but we secretly know how much we've yet to learn.

I took violin in third grade, like the viola you can only bow 1 or 2 strings together (but can't the greats pluck while bowing?) It's only impossible until you break it down or see someone else do it. Then it's practice, practice...

It took me two straight weeks to figure out Duke Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle-oo" (after listening to Steely Dan's version for 30 years). I play it when I want to think I'm good.

[aspwatterson]

and worst of all I can play a version of Roy's "Girl from the North Country" but I still haven't sussed how Roy plays it. I think I've got the chords but not what he is actually plucking out, but I am sure one day I will suss it fingers crossed :)

Come on then man don't keep us in suspense! When can we listen to your version downloaded on here or otherwhere?

andi :confused1:

ps Can you sing? I sung my version at mum's funeral [she had long black hair and have got all these old pics of her dancing ballet/ Spanish]. Had to change two words [being in church] 'breast' to 'dress' and 'laid' to prayed'.

[aspwatterson]

Can't seem to find the tab/tuning for Forget me not on HQ. Any ideas anyone?

chrs
andi :m14:

[aspwatterson]

Just located the TAB for this old fav of mine which I had totally forgotten about in the mists of times past. Anyone needs help to find it just PM me.

chrs
andi :14::26::16:

tCXm_1HIhzY

[aspwatterson]

Just located the TAB for this old fav of mine which I had totally forgotten about in the mists of times past. Anyone needs help to find it just PM me.

chrs
andi :14::26::16:

tCXm_1HIhzY


OM2kAgLvhQM

[aspwatterson]

j-xDUw-olRY&NR

He forgets to tell you it's capoed up and which fret!

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c/a

[fuzzytnth3]

Looks like the second fret to me just by counting back from the dot on the fretboard. Also you do catch a glimpse of his nut (ooo errr missus)

[Joao Nunnes]

Its Open D (DAGF#AD).

[Joao Nunnes]

It's Open D (DADF#AD)

[aspwatterson]

Good site for finding chord shapes/notes in alternative tunings once you've downloaded the plug in :



http://www.microtools.de/guitarcodex/guitarcodex_v2b.htm


Andi :m23:

[lemurjim]

I love C#m like this: x421xx. It sounds great followed by F#m7 (242222) and B7.

[aspwatterson]

B7 has always been wonderfully used as a moveable chord - 6th and 11th frets particularly - and also sliding it all the way down every fret it sounds like a mental breakdown on the guitar. On the 6th fret position bend the B string on the 8th fret, and at the 11th position bend the B string on the 13th fret. Now my hotmail is irretrievable may go back and do some more on the logitech webcam or soundcloud.Got a bit lazy and neglected my guitar in 2011!

Another interesting moveable is 0002420 > 0007970 > 00091190 , even 0001012100 and 0001416140 [the octave above]. Don't think Roy's ever used it and it sounds like a sort of mellow chord he would on a song like 'Alfred had me made from Albions everglade' etc...


Andi on one of those days in Albion...